Browning a Bolt Composite Stalker With Boss System Review

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#1 03-07-2011, 03:09 PM

Grouse Assassin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

X-commodities,A-bolt and Boss system for Browning ok i went to Browning'south website i cant find the what the differance is between the A bolt and the X bolt also has anybody used this "Boss" system before? what was the results? the more i look at the browning rifles the more i seem to similar them and as presently equally that income tax cheque hits my business relationship ill exist buying one! __________________ Looking forrard to another great flavor!

#2 03-07-2011, 03:13 PM

ShawnM Join Date: January 2011 Posts: i,923

I used to own an A-Bolt Two composite stalker with a Dominate... Rifle was fine, Dominate was not... Even a .270 sounded like a shuttle launch with that damned BOSS. I ended up using information technology with the normal barrel tip all the time considering I just couldn't stand that noise... Information technology helped reduce the recoil a lot but it wasn't worth it. As for how it compares to the X-Bolt I have no idea.

#3 03-07-2011, 03:21 PM

Okotokian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Uh, guess? :) Posts: 26,744

A bolt has a standard clip mag... well, sorta standard. Brownings are weird that manner.... only the X-bolt has a rotary clip, same idea as a Ruger 10/22. I'grand sure their are other changes (I'm thinking trigger for some reason)...

#4 03-07-2011, 03:56 PM

6.5 shooter Join Engagement: Oct 2009 Location: Medicine Chapeau Posts: three,472

I think the Xbolt is too the design of the Base screws in a X pattern on the receiver and 4 screws per base of operations. I had one a commodities for a curt time with the BOSS on information technology it was loud but it turned a 1" rifle into a i/4" rifle. I kinda liked it, and recoil was definitely lessened. It is really for the guy who wants to tune his rifle barrel to the bullet, rather than reload and melody the bullet to the rifle. __________________ Trades I would interested in: - Sightron rifle scopes, 4.5x14x42mm or 4x16x42mm peculiarly! with the HHR reticle. (no duplex pls.) - older 6x stock-still scopes with fine X or target dot. - .22 K Hornet, .17 Hornet (CZ or ?? ) - .22 long range rimfire (CZ, Voodoo, etc.) - Target rifle (Remington or rem clone). - Large shank Savage barrels. (6mm, half dozen.5mm, 30 BR.)

#5 03-07-2011, 04:thirty PM

7mmremmag Join Engagement: Jan 2010 Location: Lloydminster Posts: i,535

You may non wanna hear it just I gotta put my 2 cents in hither. A few years back I was looking for a new rifle, Being a lefty I had to choose between only a couple rifles. After reading many reviews I narrowed it down to a Browning A Commodities or a Remington. I looked at 3 guns at Wholesale sports, 1st a Browning A-Bolt in 300 win mag Stainless Stalker, 2nd a Remington 700 CDL in 7mm rem mag, and 3rd a Remington 700 XCR in 300 rum. I found the bolt to exist very sloppy and rough in the Browning, equally far as im concerned it doesnt agree a candle to the 700. And just a annotation, the mag setup on the BAR'south is messed upwardly!!! I must say im non very impressed with Browning Rifles, only that beingness said I have never handled an X-Bolt.....Considering they dont make it in left!!!

#6 03-07-2011, 06:44 PM

elkhunter11 Join Appointment: December 2008 Location: Camrose Posts: twoscore,941

I had ane rifle that had the Dominate organisation installed, and I will never own another i. The Boss was extremely loud, and was no more accurate that a non BOSS gun with a properly selected load. Besides, the BOSS kept coming loose resulting in a change of signal of impact. Lastly, Dominate equipped guns have shorter barrels, which evangelize less velocity. __________________ Simply accurate guns are interesting.

#7 03-07-2011, 06:55 PM

alone wolf Bring together Engagement: Mar 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: iii,169

brownings Quote: Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter I recall the Xbolt is as well the blueprint of the Base of operations screws in a X pattern on the receiver and 4 screws per base of operations. The X-Bolt likewise has a patented mechanism in the bolt handle, that when depressed, allows you to open the bolt with the safety fully engaged. I accept owned a number of A & X-bolts and have establish them to be authentic, reliable and very good value for the money. I would have no qualms about buying some other one for the cabinet. __________________ Participating in a gun purchase back program considering y'all call back that criminals have likewise many guns is like having yourself castrated because you lot think your neighbors take too many kids...

#8 03-07-2011, 06:55 PM

catnthehat Join Engagement: Jun 2007 Location: Ft. McMurray Posts: 36,956

My son had a Browning in 708 when he was younger , and through testing we also found that it was no more authentic using the boss than if we worked upward a load. The dominate was as well very cruddy. he never used the restriction, but had the shroud on it. he traded it for a 257 and never looked back. There never be another BOSS equipped rifle in the house.... True cat __________________ Anytime I figure I've got this long range thing figured out, I just strap into the sling and irons and remind myself that I don't!

#nine 03-07-2011, 07:06 PM

Pathfinder76 Bring together Engagement: May 2007 Posts: 14,181

The BOSS right where it'due south at it's best. As a paperweight. __________________ �Joe Average is over-headstamped, over-scoped and under-bulleted." -author unknown Last edited by Pathfinder76; 03-07-2011 at 07:14 PM.

#ten 03-07-2011, 07:17 PM

Hun-Ter Join Date: February 2011 Location: Red Deer, AB Posts: 468

Quote: Originally Posted by Grouse Assassin ok i went to Browning's website i cant find the what the differance is between the A bolt and the 10 bolt also has anybody used this "Dominate" system before? what was the results? the more i look at the browning rifles the more than i seem to like them and every bit soon as that income taxation check hits my account ill be ownership 1! Few weeks ago I was wondering about the same question myself. The link below was the all-time info I could dig up. I hope it helps you as well. I have a friend who owns a Browning Safari Bar 300WM with the Boss and an A-bolt in 300wsm. I shot both burglarize several times, the BOSS makes it loud - it kind of reminded me for my married woman's Glock 19C (compensated) ear hurting dissonance- but it was extremely authentic with manufacturing plant ammo. You tin can punch the dominate to shoot almost all factory ammo and go close to mitt load results. The weight of the Safari Bar wouldn't brand information technology to an easy comport around rifle though. The A-bolt -he has the Medallion- was extremely accurate right out of the box. He said this is his all-time all 'round rifle ever. I loved it more then my Rem 700 for sure and would merchandise mine for an a-bolt in a heartbeat. http://www.243wssm.com/content/index...tion&Itemid=61 Hunter

#11 03-07-2011, 08:27 PM

skidderman Bring together Date: Dec 2009 Location: Spruce Grove, AB Posts: 2,874

The idea that the boss tin dial in loads is garbage in my experience. With or without I get the aforementioned groups. If you use the kdf it is horribly loud. It was a marketing tool but I wish I had never bought one. I now own ane without and would never consider the system again. Equally ane other said, information technology is ugly and makes the butt shorter.

#12 03-07-2011, 08:34 PM

LacLaBicheNS Join Engagement: Aug 2008 Posts: 983

Quote: Originally Posted by 7mmremmag You may not wanna hear it but I gotta put my 2 cents in here. A few years back I was looking for a new rifle, Being a lefty I had to cull between only a couple rifles. Subsequently reading many reviews I narrowed it downwards to a Browning A Bolt or a Remington. I looked at three guns at Wholesale sports, 1st a Browning A-Commodities in 300 win mag Stainless Stalker, second a Remington 700 CDL in 7mm rem magazine, and 3rd a Remington 700 XCR in 300 rum. I found the bolt to exist very sloppy and rough in the Browning, as far every bit im concerned information technology doesnt hold a candle to the 700. And just a note, the magazine setup on the BAR's is messed upwardly!!! I must say im not very impressed with Browning Rifles, merely that being said I take never handled an X-Bolt.....Because they dont make it in left!!! I heard browning is making a left hand ten bolt this year. I want to selection up a 30-06 or 308 in a LH in the spring. I have information technology narrowed to a T3 Hunter or the LH xbolt... my worry is that it volition take months to get my hands on a LH xbolt if I order it.. I will prob end upwardly with T3 hunter because of this.. oh and at that place is ZERO info on brownings spider web site. I detect it useless. I tried to club a catalogue from them of their 2011 line up.. IF you live in the usa you lot tin can get 1 shipped to your door. If y'all alive in Canada they tell you lot to go to the closest browning dealer and become one there. My closest dealer doesn't accept them.. ****ed me off..

#13 03-08-2011, 08:05 AM

rookiemoosehunter Join Appointment: Jul 2009 Posts: 403

I take shot a a-commodities 300 win magazine with the dominate for nearly 10 years at present and other than it being loud, I have no complaints. It has very little recoil. I have shot hundreds of rounds through it and still get a very tight group. Years ago I took the boss off the "recomended setting" for the blazon of ammo I was using merely to see if there was a departure. My grouping did spread out and when I dialed it back in, it tightened up again.

#14 03-08-2011, 08:43 AM

danieldelamont Bring together Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 56

The boss is loud simply it works The boss system on my a bolt 300wsm helps tune my groups adjusting the settings allowed me to get from 1" to clover leafs at 150yards off a bench and bag. same loads used throughout

#15 03-08-2011, 10:17 AM

Grouse Assassin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

well i like the rifle the feel is prissy the stock doesnt experience "scritch" i enjoy the brusque commodities lift it did feel alittle sloppy equally mentioned but zippo id be concerned about the Dominate system seems to be getting mixed results i hope this thread keeps rolling for a fleck i appreciate all the feed back the pic of the paper wieght had me well-nigh blasting coffee out my nose.LOL Brownings website is crap wtf sell 2 differant styles of bolt activity rifle and if u look at the info or price they seem to be nearly the same simply a couple of cheezy promotional vids from 1988 telling you theyre the all-time well if i went to remington or tikka im sure they would tell u the same lol im looking at a .338 win mag ........why.........because i tin lol unless somebody on the forum has 1 layin around they wanna part with? __________________ Looking forward to some other nifty flavour!

#sixteen 03-08-2011, 11:09 AM

Gilly Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 449

had 1 had a browning a-commodities composite stalker in 300 win mag with the boss. the boss is nothing more than a noise making paper weight every bit stated before. Ya information technology reduced recoil but after a few seasons with it dad told me if i couldnt handle the recoil i have no business shooting the quotient. And then the 300 got traded and i picked upwards a a-bolt medallion in 270 wsm and it has been my goto rilfe for everything for 7 years. JMO. Gilly

#17 03-08-2011, 12:45 PM

Boss442 Bring together Date: May 2007 Posts: 444

I have a Browning A-bolt in a 300wsm, with a boss, really like the rifle, less kick, super low-cal, can carry it all day and not even notice it. Personally I like the sound of the boss, the thing has a piercing audio like a miniature howitzer! I also like the short bolt action of the wsm, seems very precise compaired to other rifles I've owned.

#18 03-08-2011, 03:25 PM

Grouse Assassin Join Engagement: October 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

lol i call up we're at l/50 on the like and dislike for the boss system go along em coming guys i wanna hear your .2cents worth earlier i lay down some money! recoil is not a concern for me nigh every burglarize i take kicks pretty difficult not one has a recoil pad so am pretty comfortable with my shoulder being blue at the finish of the day lol as for noise i dont think thats a concern a rifle is loud so what differance does louder make? none IMO i really would similar to know if this thing tightens up your group equally it claims or is it more marketing BS? __________________ Looking forward to another great flavor!

#19 03-08-2011, 04:28 PM

Pathfinder76 Join Appointment: May 2007 Posts: 14,181

Quote: Originally Posted by Grouse Assassin lol i remember we're at l/50 on the like and dislike for the boss organization keep em coming guys i wanna hear your .2cents worth earlier i lay downwards some coin! recoil is non a concern for me almost every rifle i have kicks pretty hard non one has a recoil pad and then am pretty comfy with my shoulder beingness blueish at the end of the day lol as for racket i dont think thats a concern a burglarize is loud so what differance does louder make? none IMO i really would like to know if this thing tightens up your group as it claims or is it more marketing BS? Racket is a HUGE business. HUGE. __________________ �Joe Average is over-headstamped, over-scoped and nether-bulleted." -author unknown

#20 03-08-2011, 04:47 PM

elkhunter11 Join Appointment: Dec 2008 Location: Camrose Posts: twoscore,941

Quote: as for racket i dont recollect thats a concern a rifle is loud so what differance does louder make? Louder tin can make the difference between firing a few shots with no ringing in your ears, and having your ears ring for hours later a single shot. The BOSS can easily brand that deviation. By the style, according to my dr., if your ears ring afterward beingness exposed to noise, you have suffered some permanent hearing impairment. __________________ Only accurate guns are interesting.

#21 03-08-2011, 05:07 PM

Boss442 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 444

Quote: Originally Posted by elkhunter11 Louder tin can make the difference between firing a few shots with no ringing in your ears, and having your ears ring for hours after a single shot. The Boss tin hands brand that difference. By the style, according to my md, if your ears ring after existence exposed to noise, you take suffered some permanent hearing damage. If its a 300 mag no need for a second shot!! 270 now thats a unlike story!

#22 03-08-2011, 05:43 PM

BallCoeff.435 Bring together Date: Dec 2008 Location: God's State Posts: 749

The BOSS organization is primarily at that place every bit a muzzle brake. The load tuning part is more of a marketing gimmick, although it does piece of work. In 300winmag and up, if you're shooting a lot with a tight cheek weld, y'all'll be grateful for the reduction in recoil the system provides. Nobody I know enjoys being smacked in the side of the face with a 2x4. That's particularly relevant with the abrupt kind of kick given by the 300winmag. However, if you're just a point-and-shoot 200 yard point-blank kind of guy then it doesn't buy you much. Dissonance is a non-consequence if you lot are using a good pair of electronic Peltors. Which you should be wearing for any shooting nowadays anyway, restriction or not.

#23 03-08-2011, 09:30 PM

Bickering Assassin Join Date: October 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

Quote: Originally Posted past chuck Racket is a HUGE business organization. HUGE. well your "supposed" to be wearing ear protection for whatsoever rifle muzzle braked or not and so i dubiousness the one shot u need to drop something is going to wreck annihilation and if your at the range hearing protection is a must considering anything over eighty decibels starts casing damage and a rifle is much louder than that.Anyhow dont give a **** about dissonance if you practise thats great dorsum on topic about Boss system sounds similar information technology does work most people just dont like the racket? am i reading this right? A bolt or 10? and why? __________________ Looking forward to another great season!

#24 03-08-2011, 09:32 PM

Bickering Assassin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

Quote: Originally Posted by BallCoeff.435 The BOSS system is primarily in that location as a muzzle brake. The load tuning function is more than of a marketing gimmick, although it does work. In 300winmag and up, if you're shooting a lot with a tight cheek weld, yous'll be grateful for the reduction in recoil the arrangement provides. Nobody I know enjoys existence smacked in the side of the face with a 2x4. That'due south particularly relevant with the sharp kind of kick given by the 300winmag. However, if you're simply a point-and-shoot 200 yard point-blank kind of guy and so it doesn't buy you much. Racket is a non-event if you are using a good pair of electronic Peltors. Which you should be wearing for whatsoever shooting nowadays anyhow, brake or not. Cracking post thanx for the feedback! __________________ Looking forward to another great season!

#25 03-08-2011, 09:34 PM

Grouse Assassinator Join Appointment: October 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

Quote: Originally Posted by elkhunter11 Louder can brand the difference between firing a few shots with no ringing in your ears, and having your ears ring for hours afterwards a single shot. The BOSS tin hands make that difference. By the manner, according to my medico, if your ears band after beingness exposed to noise, you have suffered some permanent hearing damage. im married my ears ring perminantly i could employ alittle more hearing loss jk lol __________________ Looking forrard to another dandy flavor!

#26 03-08-2011, 09:55 PM

elkhunter11 Bring together Engagement: Dec 2008 Location: Camrose Posts: 40,941

Quote: i doubt the one shot u need to drop something is going to wreck annihilation Tell that to a one-time club member who fired one shot from a braked 300winmag without hearing protection. That one single shot left him with measurable permanent hearing loss. __________________ Only authentic guns are interesting.

#27 03-08-2011, 09:56 PM

Pathfinder76 Join Engagement: May 2007 Posts: 14,181

Quote: Originally Posted by Bickering Assassin well your "supposed" to exist wearing ear protection for whatever rifle muzzle braked or not and so i doubt the ane shot u demand to drib something is going to wreck annihilation and if your at the range hearing protection is a must considering anything over lxxx decibels starts casing harm and a burglarize is much louder than that.Anyhow dont give a **** well-nigh racket if y'all do thats great back on topic about Boss system sounds similar it does work most people merely dont like the noise? am i reading this right? A bolt or Ten? and why? Get an A-Commodities with the Dominate. Information technology should be the perfect rifle for you. __________________ �Joe Average is over-headstamped, over-scoped and under-bulleted." -author unknown

#28 03-08-2011, 09:58 PM

Grouse Assassin Bring together Appointment: Oct 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

Quote: Originally Posted by elkhunter11 Tell that to a former order member who fired 1 shot from a braked 300winmag without hearing protection. That one single shot left him with measurable permanent hearing loss. Seriously? wow thats insaine ill wear my ear muffs merely for you big fella __________________ Looking forward to another not bad flavour!

#29 03-08-2011, 10:09 PM

elkhunter11 Join Engagement: December 2008 Location: Camrose Posts: 40,941

Quote: Seriously? wow thats insaine sick wear my ear muffs just for yous big fella We take regular hearing tests at work, and after firing that ane shot, his ears rang for several hours, and his next hearing examination showed a measurable hearing loss. His post-obit hearing tests signal that the damage was permanent. __________________ Only accurate guns are interesting.

#30 03-08-2011, x:22 PM

Grouse Assassin Bring together Date: Oct 2010 Location: Blackfalds AB Posts: 237

Quote: Originally Posted by elkhunter11 Nosotros take regular hearing tests at work, and subsequently firing that one shot, his ears rang for several hours, and his next hearing test showed a measurable hearing loss. His following hearing tests indicate that the damage was permanent. i wonder if everyone can dig upwardly the decibel level'due south with and without the BOSS surely somebody has washed a study on this i practice run across your indicate if its that bad kinda hard to hunt with ear plugs in but seems to be a big concern for a few of y'all gents so sick do some reasearch on this thanx __________________ Looking forward to another great season!

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